From Kaukab Siddique, PhD
Mr. Stone, NO ONE saw the gas chambers. Forget about “MANY.”
You have not read the Jewish holocaust stories. They are quite funny because they contradict each other. The Jews-Communists in the camps were well-organized and sent propaganda to the outside world.
The ZINGER for Mr. Stone is that the British broke the German code early in the War and have documented German message traffic. It is now available to historians.
THERE IS NO HOLOCAUST RELATED ACTIVITY in the German coded traffic which they did not know was being picked up by the British. The machine which read the coded message was called ENIGMA.
The American concentration camp photos show emaciated inmates as well as a pile of bodies. These were from starvation and disease cause by lack of facilities owing to allied bombing. The Americans machine gunned German POWS at the camps. These were ordinary soldiers.
The German behavior was so good that Elie Wiesel [the arch holocaust propagandist] left Auschwitz WITH the retreating Germans when the Russians advanced towards the camp.
Take care Mr. Stone!
Your Jews did not get killed. Be thankful!
—–Original Message—–From: Jack Stone <firstname.lastname@example.org>To: email@example.comSent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 8:39 amSubject: Re: Stone is funny! Re: Himmler on tape ADMITTING the holocaust Re: Killing 6 million secretly! LOL! Re: 16 Miles of Nazi Files: No Fuhrer order
No, in spite of the ATTEMPTS of the Nazis to keep the holocaust a secret, THEY WERE STILL UNABLE TO KEEP IT A SECRET.They made every effort to keep the holocaust secret.And yet it was so huge, they FAILED to keep it secret.Jack Stone
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Mr. StoneYou are contradicting yourself so badly, it’s not even funny. You wrote:
“IT WAS REPORTED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES DURING THE WAR, while the war was still underway. However, the Nazis did go to great lengths to keep the information only to those with a need to know.”
It was not secret and it was secret!
NY Times was whipping up war hysteria. Wartime propaganda should not be used 64 years later to make money for Israel.
The Germans were against Jews for their key positions in Communism. The Jews, as in America today, controlled the entire economy. German leaders made powerful speeches against Jews but that does not amount to holocaust. There were Jews in Berlin even when the Soviets stormed that great city.
Holocaust is a hoax. Get over it!
—–Original Message—–From: liyarath <email@example.com>To: Jack Stone <firstname.lastname@example.org>Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 2:42 amSubject: Re: Himmler on tape ADMITTING the holocaust Re: Killing 6 million secretly! LOL! Re: 16 Miles of Nazi Files: No Fuhrer order
Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Sex Slavery – The Growing Trade in Israel
Sex Slavery – The Growing Trade in Israel
Sex slavery: The growing trade in Israel, thousands of Eastern European and Russian girls lured to Tel Aviv and enslaved into prostitution
As customers – demands for slave trade workers who do not have HIV or AIDS …
“Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life….” (Leviticus 25:44-46)
There are an estimated 20,000 female sex slaves forced into prostitution in Tel-Aviv each year. According to a report released in 2005 by the Knesset Subcommittee on Trafficking in Women, between 10,000 and 15,000 women had been smuggled into Israel over the previous four years to work as prostitutes. According to the report, the women, who were mostly from the former Soviet Union, were sold at public auction for as much as $10,000 and forced to work up to 18 hours a day. On average, the women received only three percent of the money they earned from prostitution, and many were raped and beaten. Most of the women had been smuggled over the Egyptian border and lured from Russia and Eastern Europe on false promises of secretarial jobs.
Case – One woman’s story:
Posted by THE NEW HOLOCAUST at 11:23 PM Labels: Sex Slavery, The Growing Trade in Israel
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Jack Stone <email@example.com> wrote:
Why do you idiots keep asking questions that have already been answered 60 years ago?
You say really stuipd things and ask quesions that were answered probably before you were born.
No one said that the extermination of the Jews was completely secret in the way you suggest.
There are 16 miles of German government documents under the Nazis in which the Third Reich comiissioned the construction of the homicidal gas chambers, crematoria, and every aspect of the holocaust.
It is precisely the logistics and implementation of the holocaust that left 6 miles worth of documents, stacked end to end, recording every detail of the planning, organizing, and implementation of the holocaust.
It was NOT a secret.
It was widely known inside Germany.
IT WAS REPORTED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES DURING THE WAR, while the war was still underway.
However, the Nazis did go to great lengths to keep the information only to those with a need to know.
Yet those with a need to know recorded almost every detai of the holocaust in hundreds of thousands of nazi government documents. (I say “almost” because there were orders to burn records when the Nazis abandoned each death camp and other records were burned as the Third Reich fell.)
The recording of Himmler preserves Himmler telling leaders of the SS about the holocaust ALREADY LONG UNDERWAY. He refers to something that they all know about already, that has been underway for a long time, and refers to their continued efforts in the planned eradication of all the Jews.
While the general military was not told (officially), THE SS WAS CHARGED WITH CARRYING OUT THE HOLOCAUST, AND THEY KNEW.
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Mr. StoneYou are off the mark on ALL counts. There is not even ONE document proving the holocaust.
1. The Nuremburg trials were a farce. The USSR which had committed the Katyn forest slaughter, took Poland by force, waged war on tiny, Finland was sitting in judgement as were the Brits and Americans who had incinerated entire German cities. International law says those who commit crimes against humanity have no right to try others for sumilar crimes. Thousands of German civilians lay dead in the ruins of Nuremburg, the city bombed to smithreens by the victors who held court there. [See photos in David Irving’s thoroughly documented book NUREMBURG.]
2. Extracts from Himmler do not prove that the holocaust took place. David Irving is the only one who has studied the Himmler diaries and docements. They do show atrocities against the Jews in Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland at Himmler’s initiative but they do not show a holocaust or a Fuhrer order.
3. The Jews working for Communism first committed atrocities against Ukrainians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles etc who then took revenge when the German armies liberated them. The Poles and others still hate the Jews owing to their cooperation with Stalin.
4. Secret extermination of six million people was not possible because of the logistics and organization and supplies and burial and/or burning of bodies to hide the victims which would be required. The Hindus burn their dead. Ask them: It takes a whole day to burn ONE body: now multiply by six million. Even a late model incinerator in our own times takes several hours to burn ONE body and cannot accomodate even 10 bodies at a time.
5. Now ask yourself, where did the bodies of Six Million go? If they were burned, where did the fuel come from and where were the ashes disposed off. You would require TRAIN LOADS of fuel to burn the bodies CONTINUOUSLY over several years.
6. There is no evidence that Hitler tried to hide the killing of the Jews. He was not scared of anyone. All of Europe was in his control. He had no need to hide. Mass murder requires a lot of organization, supplies and orders. THERE ARE NONE SUCH. Notice that Jews wiped out entire PALESTINIAN villages but failed to hide the atrocties in spite of their control of the media.
So, Mr. Stone your holocaust story is no more than a fairy story, a toral fabrication.
From my reading, and I have read both sides, the holocaust story had to be invented to cover up the horrendous crimes committed by the allies against EVERY German city, including the rape of EVERY German woman ages from 8 to 80.
In Palestine, we Muslims can see how you Jews operate. You kill, rape, destroy, build your cities on our villages and then use your media to label us as terrorists.
In Germany, your pet government, Ms. Matkel etc., with occupation forces in Afghanistan, imprisons German critics of the holocaust story. Germany names streets after the traitor Stauffenburg and accepts every story against Hitler. It’s is brainwashing on a national scale. Thousands of Germans have been arrested for looking critrically at the holohoax. It is CENSORSHIP and ARBITRARY arrests to suppress the truth. If the holocaust happened, there would be no need to silence critics.
David Irving was arrested in Austria for ONE SENTENCE he uttered 8 years before his arrest.
Mr. Stone your emperor has no clothes but you can’t say it.
SincerelyKaukab siddique, PhD
—–Original Message—–From: Jack Stone <email@example.com>To: firstname.lastname@example.orgSent: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 12:33 amSubject: Himmler on tape ADMITTING the holocaust Re: Killing 6 million secretly! LOL! Re: 16 Miles of Nazi Files: No Fuhrer order
Yes we do know that the Germans documented everything.
That is why there are MOUNTAINS of documents proving the holocaust.
The records of the Nuremberg Trial in the so-called “Peace Palace” in The Hague contain thousands of documents proving the holocaust.
There was so much evidence that the prosecutors could not even read it all and needed only a tiny fraction of the total mountain to prove the holocaust in the Nuremberg trialS (many trials).
And again, the governemnt that inherited all the governmental records from the Nazi Third Reich is the most convinced that the holocaust is real.
However, your objection is foolish.
First, it is always logical foolishness to argue from what YOU THINK people WOULD HAVE DONE, instead of WHAT THEY ACTUALLY DID.
People do all kinds of things that don’t follow your expectations.
Arguing that it could not have happened because YOU think that they might have done it differently is downright silly. This is no proof at all.
Second, your assumptions are also foolish and absurd.
NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MODERN WAR has ANY order been distributed to ALL members of the mlitary of any country.
A particular army group, or brigade, or division, or squad is told ONLY WHAT THEY NEED TO KNOW.
If a 4-man squad is assigned to undertake a secret mission, they do not send the orders to the entire army…. only to the 4 man squad and immediate superiors.
Each unit of the Nazi Wehrmacht was told ONLY what THEY were supposed to be doing.
Furthermore, Hitler DIVIDED power between the military and the SS.
The extermination of the Jews came under the secretive SS.
Therefore, ONLY the SS and ONLY those SS units involved were given the orders to carry out their particular responsibilities.
And indeed that is exactly what we see in the TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS from the Nazi government proving the holocaust.